wow and from laying on the drivers side door jamp spot sorry acutal name is not in my mind at the moment lol. but my shoulder is killing me anytime i move it lol. aint hurt this bad since i had my wreck in the van and had to get the gremlin on the road and the next day after the wreck i was putting my dash back into the car. and then wiring the stereo lol. that was a few years ago tho lol.